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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4707</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live next to lake thunderbird and go swimming there with my friends and I have never heard of the oklahoma octopus.. (until i watched it on animal planet) =(</description>
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		<title>By: issac meyer</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4459</link>
		<dc:creator>issac meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in oklahoma and my friends were the ones who went missing we were swimming and all of the sudden a my friend got sucked under water the rest of the day we were searching for him but we never found him. D:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in oklahoma and my friends were the ones who went missing we were swimming and all of the sudden a my friend got sucked under water the rest of the day we were searching for him but we never found him. D:</p>
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		<title>By: Liondog19D</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4427</link>
		<dc:creator>Liondog19D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(1)Lost Tapes is all fake, people.  If you pay attention to the show, it even says these are situations that MIGHT be possible IF people were attacked by cryptids, or something along those lines. (2)Anyone with a PhD of ANY KIND should at least have grammatical, punctuation, and writing skills befitting a person who&#039;s actually graduated high school, and attended college, let alone who&#039;s earned a damned doctorate.  Even undergrads and masters level grad students have to do a hell of a lot of papers for extremely picky professors. (3)Bats generally do have wings, there, Einstein.  (4)I&#039;ve had relatives who lived and/or vacationed in the Tenkiller area going back for decades and never once did I hear any lake monster stories from any of them.  (5)If, in fact, the three Oklahoma lakes in question are manmade, and have only existed since the 40s or so; it&#039;s pretty difficult to imagine cryptids of any sort existing in that water.  I&#039;m positive beyond the shadow of a doubt that there are many cryptids, perhaps even outright monsters (aside from terrorists, child molestors, rapists, murderers, drug dealers, gangbangers, &quot;rap&quot; and &quot;hip hop&quot; scumbags, most of Hollywood, Osamabama &amp; Co., and liberal commucrats); however, any sizeable lifeform, excluding water moccasins, etc. coming from the surrounding land, able to pose a threat to humans would pretty well have had to be intentionally introduced into a manmade, freshwater lake.  (6)Turn off the TV, XBox, Playstation, FaceySpace, IPod, cellphone, etc., get some actual exercise for a change, and hey, READ A DAMN BOOK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(1)Lost Tapes is all fake, people.  If you pay attention to the show, it even says these are situations that MIGHT be possible IF people were attacked by cryptids, or something along those lines. (2)Anyone with a PhD of ANY KIND should at least have grammatical, punctuation, and writing skills befitting a person who&#8217;s actually graduated high school, and attended college, let alone who&#8217;s earned a damned doctorate.  Even undergrads and masters level grad students have to do a hell of a lot of papers for extremely picky professors. (3)Bats generally do have wings, there, Einstein.  (4)I&#8217;ve had relatives who lived and/or vacationed in the Tenkiller area going back for decades and never once did I hear any lake monster stories from any of them.  (5)If, in fact, the three Oklahoma lakes in question are manmade, and have only existed since the 40s or so; it&#8217;s pretty difficult to imagine cryptids of any sort existing in that water.  I&#8217;m positive beyond the shadow of a doubt that there are many cryptids, perhaps even outright monsters (aside from terrorists, child molestors, rapists, murderers, drug dealers, gangbangers, &#8220;rap&#8221; and &#8220;hip hop&#8221; scumbags, most of Hollywood, Osamabama &amp; Co., and liberal commucrats); however, any sizeable lifeform, excluding water moccasins, etc. coming from the surrounding land, able to pose a threat to humans would pretty well have had to be intentionally introduced into a manmade, freshwater lake.  (6)Turn off the TV, XBox, Playstation, FaceySpace, IPod, cellphone, etc., get some actual exercise for a change, and hey, READ A DAMN BOOK.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4292</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that when people say they seen something then yes they seen something. To call someone a liar because we have never seen it doesn&#039;t mean it don&#039;t exsist. Check Bigfoot sightings. It&#039;s the only U.S. monkey. And they have fossils from when it exsisted, why say it&#039;s extint just because they are not seen? And the lockNess monster is a plesiasaurus (lol however it&#039;s spelt). They knew they exsisted just like the alligator exsisted way back then, although it was HUGE. They can hide in deep underwater caves. There still is alot of land never touched by humans. And nothing is impossible just look at Australia&#039;s crazy mixed animals. The platapuss, a mammal with a beak  and lays eggs, if I didn&#039;t know it was pictured and studied I would definatly say it&#039;s not real! And the little deer with gills! You can never know until someone else tells you it&#039;s real? Why not an eye wittness then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that when people say they seen something then yes they seen something. To call someone a liar because we have never seen it doesn&#8217;t mean it don&#8217;t exsist. Check Bigfoot sightings. It&#8217;s the only U.S. monkey. And they have fossils from when it exsisted, why say it&#8217;s extint just because they are not seen? And the lockNess monster is a plesiasaurus (lol however it&#8217;s spelt). They knew they exsisted just like the alligator exsisted way back then, although it was HUGE. They can hide in deep underwater caves. There still is alot of land never touched by humans. And nothing is impossible just look at Australia&#8217;s crazy mixed animals. The platapuss, a mammal with a beak  and lays eggs, if I didn&#8217;t know it was pictured and studied I would definatly say it&#8217;s not real! And the little deer with gills! You can never know until someone else tells you it&#8217;s real? Why not an eye wittness then?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4234</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From varied descriptions, and local lore of 
the lakes, I would surmise that it is most 
likely real, but not an octopus. 
I think very large catfish whiskers 
could look like tentacles. This would also 
explain how they were seen occasionally
above water, where octopi have no support. 
This would also fit with the relatively shark like 
description, and dark coloration. 
Just a guess though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From varied descriptions, and local lore of<br />
the lakes, I would surmise that it is most<br />
likely real, but not an octopus.<br />
I think very large catfish whiskers<br />
could look like tentacles. This would also<br />
explain how they were seen occasionally<br />
above water, where octopi have no support.<br />
This would also fit with the relatively shark like<br />
description, and dark coloration.<br />
Just a guess though.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaylie</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4231</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaylie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seen that on animal planet... Poor guys... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seen that on animal planet&#8230; Poor guys&#8230; <img src='http://411chatter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jesus</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4221</link>
		<dc:creator>jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone just calm down, this is a fake story, if you just type on a google search &quot; lost tapes cast octopus&quot; youll find the real names of the cast and they are trust me, still alive and good......its all just a show animal planet has made for our amusement......maybe the myths might, i repeat might be real.....but the stories are all completely fake......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone just calm down, this is a fake story, if you just type on a google search &#8221; lost tapes cast octopus&#8221; youll find the real names of the cast and they are trust me, still alive and good&#8230;&#8230;its all just a show animal planet has made for our amusement&#8230;&#8230;maybe the myths might, i repeat might be real&#8230;..but the stories are all completely fake&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lane, Nicole, Ann</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4004</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane, Nicole, Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my friends and I went on our annual lake trip, we saw something that poked its head out of the water and then went back under.  We ignored it thinking it was nothing but then we saw it again.  My best friend Nicole 
felt something rub against her leg then something grabbed her and pulled her under.  Luckily we were in shallow water so one of our friends, Lane, jumped in to save her but Lane jumped in the water even though he could not swim.  So sadly I had to jump in a save both of them.  All of us came up safley but scarred our lives forever............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my friends and I went on our annual lake trip, we saw something that poked its head out of the water and then went back under.  We ignored it thinking it was nothing but then we saw it again.  My best friend Nicole<br />
felt something rub against her leg then something grabbed her and pulled her under.  Luckily we were in shallow water so one of our friends, Lane, jumped in to save her but Lane jumped in the water even though he could not swim.  So sadly I had to jump in a save both of them.  All of us came up safley but scarred our lives forever&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-3791</link>
		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>abot the octopus and the thunder bird it like so mystery story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abot the octopus and the thunder bird it like so mystery story</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-3790</link>
		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys, i think it so ekstrem but sometimes i will said with people who was victims with dangerous animal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys, i think it so ekstrem but sometimes i will said with people who was victims with dangerous animal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: andres</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-3782</link>
		<dc:creator>andres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua, no one likes a smart ass, and ur a douschebag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua, no one likes a smart ass, and ur a douschebag</p>
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		<title>By: KennetH Wee</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-3768</link>
		<dc:creator>KennetH Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be fooled by the show &quot;Lost Tape&quot;. Watch it again in slow motion and you can spot the glitches. Tot Discovery Channel suppose to show real stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be fooled by the show &#8220;Lost Tape&#8221;. Watch it again in slow motion and you can spot the glitches. Tot Discovery Channel suppose to show real stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-3626</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and lake Thunderbird was man made sometime around 1960! I have never heard of there being any over wash into it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and lake Thunderbird was man made sometime around 1960! I have never heard of there being any over wash into it?</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-3625</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have grown up in Norman Oklahoma. Right across from Clear Bay Lake Thunderbird! As we always called it Dirtybird! It is really really freaking dirty! So what I am saying is you could walk to the lake from where I grew up. If someone died at the lake, oh everyone would have been talking about it! I never heard of this until it was on TV. I know the catfish get to be way huge! I am telling you this never happened! It was made up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have grown up in Norman Oklahoma. Right across from Clear Bay Lake Thunderbird! As we always called it Dirtybird! It is really really freaking dirty! So what I am saying is you could walk to the lake from where I grew up. If someone died at the lake, oh everyone would have been talking about it! I never heard of this until it was on TV. I know the catfish get to be way huge! I am telling you this never happened! It was made up!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-3201</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just saw this today and i just got back from lake tenkiller yesterday i spent the hole day on the boat swimming. i dont usually like going to lakes cuz i get weird feelings about lakes and wats in them. wen i saw this is actually believed it but i know its not true but now i dont wanna swim in any lakes anymore. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just saw this today and i just got back from lake tenkiller yesterday i spent the hole day on the boat swimming. i dont usually like going to lakes cuz i get weird feelings about lakes and wats in them. wen i saw this is actually believed it but i know its not true but now i dont wanna swim in any lakes anymore. lol</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-3101</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s FAKE all the kids or adults that think this so called octopus is real...Just to tell you it&#039;s fake what do you guys still believe in the tooth fairy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s FAKE all the kids or adults that think this so called octopus is real&#8230;Just to tell you it&#8217;s fake what do you guys still believe in the tooth fairy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-3021</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Oklahoma Octopus was based on a article a guy 
wrote a few years back. I looked it up. When you read the
article it became pretty clear the story was a fabrication by
a man who knew almost nothing about the state&#039;s history
or geography. There were several major problems with his
story.

1) He described the lakes as small lakes in the Ozarks.
Thunderbird is in the cross timbers in Norman, OK. Oolagah is in a band of northern prairie near the Ozarks. 
He also in another article switched Tenkiller to Arcadia.

2)  There are no naturally occurring lakes in the state,
save for a few oxbows and the playas out in the panhandle. All lakes were made from the late 30s to early
40s as part of the public works act. Its kinda hard to have
sightings of lake monsters going back hundreds of years
in 60 year old lakes.

3) There are native american stories about the octopus 
going back thousands of years. Most of the tribes in Oklahoma were transplanted there in the 1830s. The 
tribes that settled around in the areas were the lakes
would be made were all forced to move there from eastern forests. The original tribes in the area (Apache, 
Caddo, Kiowa, and  Witchita) have no such stories.

4) Most marine species cannot readily make the transition
from fresh water to salt water. I might be mistaken, but
I do not believe the octopi and squid have a gland to regulate salt. The salt differences would cause the osmotic pressure in the cells to get out of wack, causing 
fresh water to seep in and try to balance. The octopus would puff up and pop. (Note: there are some species 
like the bull shark and the horseshoe crab that can do this, but they have special adaptations.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Oklahoma Octopus was based on a article a guy<br />
wrote a few years back. I looked it up. When you read the<br />
article it became pretty clear the story was a fabrication by<br />
a man who knew almost nothing about the state&#8217;s history<br />
or geography. There were several major problems with his<br />
story.</p>
<p>1) He described the lakes as small lakes in the Ozarks.<br />
Thunderbird is in the cross timbers in Norman, OK. Oolagah is in a band of northern prairie near the Ozarks.<br />
He also in another article switched Tenkiller to Arcadia.</p>
<p>2)  There are no naturally occurring lakes in the state,<br />
save for a few oxbows and the playas out in the panhandle. All lakes were made from the late 30s to early<br />
40s as part of the public works act. Its kinda hard to have<br />
sightings of lake monsters going back hundreds of years<br />
in 60 year old lakes.</p>
<p>3) There are native american stories about the octopus<br />
going back thousands of years. Most of the tribes in Oklahoma were transplanted there in the 1830s. The<br />
tribes that settled around in the areas were the lakes<br />
would be made were all forced to move there from eastern forests. The original tribes in the area (Apache,<br />
Caddo, Kiowa, and  Witchita) have no such stories.</p>
<p>4) Most marine species cannot readily make the transition<br />
from fresh water to salt water. I might be mistaken, but<br />
I do not believe the octopi and squid have a gland to regulate salt. The salt differences would cause the osmotic pressure in the cells to get out of wack, causing<br />
fresh water to seep in and try to balance. The octopus would puff up and pop. (Note: there are some species<br />
like the bull shark and the horseshoe crab that can do this, but they have special adaptations.)</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-2917</link>
		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have seen an octopus in a lake too. i was coming out of my parents condo and saw this two foot long brown leathery tentacle shot out of the water and crash back down in our cove by a dock. this was in lake of the ozarks and i&#039;ve seen it two or three times in the summer already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have seen an octopus in a lake too. i was coming out of my parents condo and saw this two foot long brown leathery tentacle shot out of the water and crash back down in our cove by a dock. this was in lake of the ozarks and i&#8217;ve seen it two or three times in the summer already!</p>
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		<title>By: jason .</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-2886</link>
		<dc:creator>jason .</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just hope you guys know that lost tapes on animal planet is acted out . but i do think these creatures might exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just hope you guys know that lost tapes on animal planet is acted out . but i do think these creatures might exist.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-2744</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived five miles away from Lake Tenkiller my entire life.  Divers have seen giant catfish as one lady mentioned earlier.  They have also found juvenile alligators on two different occasions in the lake.  That alone is enough to keep me from swimming in the water regardless if there is an octopus in it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived five miles away from Lake Tenkiller my entire life.  Divers have seen giant catfish as one lady mentioned earlier.  They have also found juvenile alligators on two different occasions in the lake.  That alone is enough to keep me from swimming in the water regardless if there is an octopus in it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: aun</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>aun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tell someone to go catch that thing in an underwater mobile n put the octy into the oklohoma zoo for exibition</description>
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		<title>By: blake</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-2646</link>
		<dc:creator>blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yal are scared because of a stupid octopus? just dont go to lake thumderbird,oolsgah,tenkiller. duh even the stipidest person would know that.</description>
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		<title>By: STEVE</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-2587</link>
		<dc:creator>STEVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JUST THIS WEEKEND MYSELF AND A BUNCH OF FAMILY WERE JUST DRIFTING ABOUT AT LAKE TENKILLER. WE SEEN SOMETHING FLOATING ABOUT TEN FEET FROM THE BOAT. WE THOUGHT IT WAS A LIFE JACKET THAT SOMEONE LOST BUT WHEN WE GOT CLOSE IT LOOKED LIKE SOME KIND OF DEAD FISH OR SOMETHING. MY SON AND I TRIED TO HOOK IT BUT WE COULD NOT PULL IT UP.  THIS THING DEFENETLY RESEMBLED AND OCTAPUS. WE WENT BACK TO CAMP AND CALLED THE ARMY CORE OF ENGINEERS PARK RANGER. WE TOLD THEM WHAT WE SEEN AND WERE IT WAS. THEY ASKED IF WE GOT PICTURES AND WE SAID NO. THE RANGER SAID WE WOULD NOT WANT TO GET EVERYONE IN AN UPROAR OVER A FISH. HE SAID THE PARK COULD LOOSE ALOT OF MONEY IF EVERYONE WAS AFRAID TO GO IN THE WATER. SOUNDED LIKE A COVER UP IF YOU ASK ME!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JUST THIS WEEKEND MYSELF AND A BUNCH OF FAMILY WERE JUST DRIFTING ABOUT AT LAKE TENKILLER. WE SEEN SOMETHING FLOATING ABOUT TEN FEET FROM THE BOAT. WE THOUGHT IT WAS A LIFE JACKET THAT SOMEONE LOST BUT WHEN WE GOT CLOSE IT LOOKED LIKE SOME KIND OF DEAD FISH OR SOMETHING. MY SON AND I TRIED TO HOOK IT BUT WE COULD NOT PULL IT UP.  THIS THING DEFENETLY RESEMBLED AND OCTAPUS. WE WENT BACK TO CAMP AND CALLED THE ARMY CORE OF ENGINEERS PARK RANGER. WE TOLD THEM WHAT WE SEEN AND WERE IT WAS. THEY ASKED IF WE GOT PICTURES AND WE SAID NO. THE RANGER SAID WE WOULD NOT WANT TO GET EVERYONE IN AN UPROAR OVER A FISH. HE SAID THE PARK COULD LOOSE ALOT OF MONEY IF EVERYONE WAS AFRAID TO GO IN THE WATER. SOUNDED LIKE A COVER UP IF YOU ASK ME!</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-2555</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i live in oklahoma, and go to lake tenkiller EVERY weekend, i have had no trouble, at all! i go swimming, i ride the waverunner, i do all of that.. &amp;&amp; nothing has got me yet. so, you shouldn&#039;t be scared, you should just be careful, and always swim with someone else. like a &quot;buddy system&quot; or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i live in oklahoma, and go to lake tenkiller EVERY weekend, i have had no trouble, at all! i go swimming, i ride the waverunner, i do all of that.. &amp;&amp; nothing has got me yet. so, you shouldn&#8217;t be scared, you should just be careful, and always swim with someone else. like a &#8220;buddy system&#8221; or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-2427</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 04:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never liked swimming in lakes and ponds much, because not knowing what is around me is scary.
like others have said, no one ever truly knows what is out there. there are so many different species of animals and bugs in the world that have yet to be discovered, and many that will probably never be. to say that something is impossible is more of an opinion, not necessarily fact. something may seem improbable, but that doesn&#039;t mean it is. that doesn&#039;t it isn&#039;t, either.
unless they thoroughly search or drain the lake, or concrete evidence is found that there actually is an octopus in a freshwater lake, nobody knows for sure whether they exist or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never liked swimming in lakes and ponds much, because not knowing what is around me is scary.<br />
like others have said, no one ever truly knows what is out there. there are so many different species of animals and bugs in the world that have yet to be discovered, and many that will probably never be. to say that something is impossible is more of an opinion, not necessarily fact. something may seem improbable, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it is. that doesn&#8217;t it isn&#8217;t, either.<br />
unless they thoroughly search or drain the lake, or concrete evidence is found that there actually is an octopus in a freshwater lake, nobody knows for sure whether they exist or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheyenne Reiger</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-2372</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheyenne Reiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant believe it when it said,&#039;&#039;Oklahoma Octopus - A group of teenagers has apparently filed another sighting of the elusive Oklahoma Octopus whose existence has not been proven but is feared nonetheless.&quot; :((</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant believe it when it said,&#8221;Oklahoma Octopus &#8211; A group of teenagers has apparently filed another sighting of the elusive Oklahoma Octopus whose existence has not been proven but is feared nonetheless.&#8221; <img src='http://411chatter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> (</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-1/#comment-2344</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Indonesia and I saw it on &quot;Lost Tapes&quot; last night.  If it&#039;s all a hoax, does it include the recording, too?  Also, wat about those three teens whose pictures were splashed on TV, and pronounced dead.  These are real people.  If they&#039;re not dead, someone somewhere must&#039;ve known they&#039;re no longer around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Indonesia and I saw it on &#8220;Lost Tapes&#8221; last night.  If it&#8217;s all a hoax, does it include the recording, too?  Also, wat about those three teens whose pictures were splashed on TV, and pronounced dead.  These are real people.  If they&#8217;re not dead, someone somewhere must&#8217;ve known they&#8217;re no longer around.</p>
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		<title>By: beth</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-1/#comment-2281</link>
		<dc:creator>beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am from Oklahoma and native american.  Who knows what lays at the bottom of these lakes.  The lake near me has catfish that are as big as cars.  Mutations have and will still happen.  Who knows what has and hadn&#039;t mutated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from Oklahoma and native american.  Who knows what lays at the bottom of these lakes.  The lake near me has catfish that are as big as cars.  Mutations have and will still happen.  Who knows what has and hadn&#8217;t mutated.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommyoppa</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-1/#comment-2278</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommyoppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel some of these events are real.  Starting with eye witnesses and tragic results.  These creatures can become really big with food and space.  As you seen on T.V. we have evidence of fresh water fishes that can weigh about 300 pounds.  Snakes and other creatures always breaking a record every year.  With their body structure, these creatures have the advantage underwater.  We all know our body weight decreases underwater (average 7 year old can lift a 180 pound person underwater).  An average person can only swim-pull about 25-20 pounds of force.  These Creatures can pull 4 to 5 times that amount.  Imagine swimming in a lake that is say 20 feet down.  You have a force dragging you 4 to 5 times stronger than what you can repel.  Theses numbers are not made up, but facts from observations of these creatures.  If these creatures pull and never let go, and knowing some creatures are meat eaters, I&#039;ll let you guys decide what will happen next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel some of these events are real.  Starting with eye witnesses and tragic results.  These creatures can become really big with food and space.  As you seen on T.V. we have evidence of fresh water fishes that can weigh about 300 pounds.  Snakes and other creatures always breaking a record every year.  With their body structure, these creatures have the advantage underwater.  We all know our body weight decreases underwater (average 7 year old can lift a 180 pound person underwater).  An average person can only swim-pull about 25-20 pounds of force.  These Creatures can pull 4 to 5 times that amount.  Imagine swimming in a lake that is say 20 feet down.  You have a force dragging you 4 to 5 times stronger than what you can repel.  Theses numbers are not made up, but facts from observations of these creatures.  If these creatures pull and never let go, and knowing some creatures are meat eaters, I&#8217;ll let you guys decide what will happen next.</p>
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		<title>By: Meghin</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-1/#comment-2208</link>
		<dc:creator>Meghin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is just to all of those, especially the brainiac with the &quot;phd in zoology&quot;...i would just like to bring up the fact that biologists and scientists of all types aren&#039;t right 100 percent of the time. how close minded can people be? i mean seriously, people who say that there is no way for something like this to exist must know everything, and in this case, must know every species of aquatic animals there are. perhaps i could point your attention in the direction of the bull shark (an aquatic organism i may add) and continue by explaining the fact that these sharks have adapted from merely tropical saltwater habitats to cold freshwater habitats. if a species of shark can adapt to fit any environment (including rivers in the US), then why is it impossible for a species of octupus to do the same thing. and is it also not possible that its merely a rare undiscovered species? just because someone hasn&#039;t seen or heard about something, doesn&#039;t make something fictional. please give me the names of every person who has heard of and seen every animal. i&#039;m not saying that this &quot;lake monster&quot; exists, i&#039;m just stating the fact that it&#039;s stupid to make assumptions about something you know nothing about. i am 17 years old and have been interested in zoology for so long and have decided to major in that, and marine biology, in the fall. i would just like to say that not all kids drink and that shouldn&#039;t be the first thought that comes to the minds of the people investigating their deaths. i am appauld by people who believe they know everything...and just for the record, this is my opinion on the topic, so NO ONE can prove it false =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is just to all of those, especially the brainiac with the &#8220;phd in zoology&#8221;&#8230;i would just like to bring up the fact that biologists and scientists of all types aren&#8217;t right 100 percent of the time. how close minded can people be? i mean seriously, people who say that there is no way for something like this to exist must know everything, and in this case, must know every species of aquatic animals there are. perhaps i could point your attention in the direction of the bull shark (an aquatic organism i may add) and continue by explaining the fact that these sharks have adapted from merely tropical saltwater habitats to cold freshwater habitats. if a species of shark can adapt to fit any environment (including rivers in the US), then why is it impossible for a species of octupus to do the same thing. and is it also not possible that its merely a rare undiscovered species? just because someone hasn&#8217;t seen or heard about something, doesn&#8217;t make something fictional. please give me the names of every person who has heard of and seen every animal. i&#8217;m not saying that this &#8220;lake monster&#8221; exists, i&#8217;m just stating the fact that it&#8217;s stupid to make assumptions about something you know nothing about. i am 17 years old and have been interested in zoology for so long and have decided to major in that, and marine biology, in the fall. i would just like to say that not all kids drink and that shouldn&#8217;t be the first thought that comes to the minds of the people investigating their deaths. i am appauld by people who believe they know everything&#8230;and just for the record, this is my opinion on the topic, so NO ONE can prove it false =]</p>
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