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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5718</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more note, those who cite the bull shark and fresh water sting ray were able to evolve into their fresh water habitats. These creatures evolved over many years possible hundreds of years. Lake Tenkiller was made in 1940s. The man-make lake of Tenkiller has no direct connection to any salt water bodies make it impossible for a salt water fish to swim up and make home in the lake. Also if this was true, we would see many more of these creatures around coastal towns and lakes, not so far inland. No such reports have been made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more note, those who cite the bull shark and fresh water sting ray were able to evolve into their fresh water habitats. These creatures evolved over many years possible hundreds of years. Lake Tenkiller was made in 1940s. The man-make lake of Tenkiller has no direct connection to any salt water bodies make it impossible for a salt water fish to swim up and make home in the lake. Also if this was true, we would see many more of these creatures around coastal towns and lakes, not so far inland. No such reports have been made.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5717</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A giant monster living in the lake possible? If your crazy maybe. The fact that people believe an animal can grow to huge proportions by eating alot of food is a fallacy.

Here is a major fact, oxgyen avaiable to animals plays a role in the over health and size of animals.  During prehistoric times, oxygen levels were around 30-35% which one was reason dinosaurs and other animals including the modern day crockidile were super big due to the rich oxygen in the atomosphere causing them to grow porportionally. today the oxygen levels are around 12-21% depending on pollution and city size.

If you want to fiddle around with the idea of a giant lake monster to make your life that much more intersting then go ahead. But seriously, I doubt a man-made lake would carry such a creature. The sea although is different and is more possible to harvest a creature, due to having much different oxygen levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A giant monster living in the lake possible? If your crazy maybe. The fact that people believe an animal can grow to huge proportions by eating alot of food is a fallacy.</p>
<p>Here is a major fact, oxgyen avaiable to animals plays a role in the over health and size of animals.  During prehistoric times, oxygen levels were around 30-35% which one was reason dinosaurs and other animals including the modern day crockidile were super big due to the rich oxygen in the atomosphere causing them to grow porportionally. today the oxygen levels are around 12-21% depending on pollution and city size.</p>
<p>If you want to fiddle around with the idea of a giant lake monster to make your life that much more intersting then go ahead. But seriously, I doubt a man-made lake would carry such a creature. The sea although is different and is more possible to harvest a creature, due to having much different oxygen levels.</p>
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		<title>By: David Manley</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5716</link>
		<dc:creator>David Manley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After Hurricane Katrina, the Mississippi river running thru Memphis, Tn had a manatee trapped along side Harbour Town,  It was reported alligators and other sea life
traveled this direction after the Hurricane.  Don&#039;t ever say
it is impossible that sea life can adapt to fresh water, it happened the manateee lived until it was trapped under a barge line here in Memphis. During the summer our banks were filled with alligators sunbathing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Hurricane Katrina, the Mississippi river running thru Memphis, Tn had a manatee trapped along side Harbour Town,  It was reported alligators and other sea life<br />
traveled this direction after the Hurricane.  Don&#8217;t ever say<br />
it is impossible that sea life can adapt to fresh water, it happened the manateee lived until it was trapped under a barge line here in Memphis. During the summer our banks were filled with alligators sunbathing.</p>
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		<title>By: Danelle</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5708</link>
		<dc:creator>Danelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I llve in Okalhoma and let me tell this tv series is the most fake ass shit. I mean come on the actors or who ever they are and the so calles lost tapes ARE YOU FOR REAL animal plant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I llve in Okalhoma and let me tell this tv series is the most fake ass shit. I mean come on the actors or who ever they are and the so calles lost tapes ARE YOU FOR REAL animal plant.</p>
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		<title>By: Ooly</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5550</link>
		<dc:creator>Ooly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fredrickson Ya, seriously.</description>
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		<title>By: Ooly</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5538</link>
		<dc:creator>Ooly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooly the Oologah lake monsters coulds SO eat that thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooly the Oologah lake monsters coulds SO eat that thing.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5484</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have live by tenkiller lake for 30yrs and have been scuba diving the lake since 1996, have made hundreds of dives from shollow water down to 160 ft have never seen a giant catfish teh size of a car or on octopus, but the water is not that clear until you start getting  deeper than 60ft, then the water is pitch black you must use lights to anything. So it is possible that they could be there.
There are thousands of people that dive the lake everyyear and none I know of have ever seen an octopus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have live by tenkiller lake for 30yrs and have been scuba diving the lake since 1996, have made hundreds of dives from shollow water down to 160 ft have never seen a giant catfish teh size of a car or on octopus, but the water is not that clear until you start getting  deeper than 60ft, then the water is pitch black you must use lights to anything. So it is possible that they could be there.<br />
There are thousands of people that dive the lake everyyear and none I know of have ever seen an octopus</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5477</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister and I were Atacked by it I jumped to protect her
It just broke my left leg and left arm my sister broke all of her ribs this happened may 1st 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister and I were Atacked by it I jumped to protect her<br />
It just broke my left leg and left arm my sister broke all of her ribs this happened may 1st 2009</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5378</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bull sharks have been found in fresh water as far upstream as lake michigan in the past.  If sharks can survive in fresh water why is it impossible for an octopus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bull sharks have been found in fresh water as far upstream as lake michigan in the past.  If sharks can survive in fresh water why is it impossible for an octopus?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-3/#comment-5377</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well people thought stingrays were salt water only until fresh water ones were discovered in the amazon river.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well people thought stingrays were salt water only until fresh water ones were discovered in the amazon river.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim (Lead Investigator Of Maine Supernatural Investigation Society)</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-5267</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim (Lead Investigator Of Maine Supernatural Investigation Society)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that it can be possible for the Oklahoma Octopus to exist. Regardless of what people may say scientists have been finding new types of species that they thought couldnt exist. Look at the mega mouth shark who people mistaken for a lake monster, that was proven to be a new kind of shark that no one new existed. People who think that this creature living in fresh water is very close minded to a possibility of a new species of Octopus. I myself investigate the Paranormal and Unexplained and I can very much say I have seen things and witnessed things that cannot be explained. So the question is &quot;Can the Oklahoma Octopus exist?&quot; My answer would be yes it is a possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that it can be possible for the Oklahoma Octopus to exist. Regardless of what people may say scientists have been finding new types of species that they thought couldnt exist. Look at the mega mouth shark who people mistaken for a lake monster, that was proven to be a new kind of shark that no one new existed. People who think that this creature living in fresh water is very close minded to a possibility of a new species of Octopus. I myself investigate the Paranormal and Unexplained and I can very much say I have seen things and witnessed things that cannot be explained. So the question is &#8220;Can the Oklahoma Octopus exist?&#8221; My answer would be yes it is a possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacey</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-5240</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived in Oklahoma all my life and live about 25 minutes from Lake Tenkiller. My family has always told stories about &quot;lake monters&quot; that will pull you under the water if you&#039;re swimming in the deeper areas of the lake. Of course calling it a monster was only to farther frighten our younger family members. The catfish do get very big and are carnivorous. These are the monsters we talk about. My uncle Bill was swimming one night towards maybe about the middle of the lake and felt something huge brush past him that he said felt like a catfish. I honestly believe that the &quot;Oklahoma Octopus&quot; is really a catfish. Its whisker could be the &quot;tenticles&quot; and if it were a catfish, that would explain people saying that it looked like a shark. 

Don&#039;t write me off as a closed minded skeptic, I believe anything is possible, but this story just seems very made up, especially since none of us  Oklahomans have ever heard of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived in Oklahoma all my life and live about 25 minutes from Lake Tenkiller. My family has always told stories about &#8220;lake monters&#8221; that will pull you under the water if you&#8217;re swimming in the deeper areas of the lake. Of course calling it a monster was only to farther frighten our younger family members. The catfish do get very big and are carnivorous. These are the monsters we talk about. My uncle Bill was swimming one night towards maybe about the middle of the lake and felt something huge brush past him that he said felt like a catfish. I honestly believe that the &#8220;Oklahoma Octopus&#8221; is really a catfish. Its whisker could be the &#8220;tenticles&#8221; and if it were a catfish, that would explain people saying that it looked like a shark. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t write me off as a closed minded skeptic, I believe anything is possible, but this story just seems very made up, especially since none of us  Oklahomans have ever heard of it.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-5207</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was my uncle  who died in  oklahoma in Lake thunderbird his body never resurfaced   and he never drank agenst his religion just  went out in a boat it tiped and he was never hurd from or seen again  and he was a great swimmer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was my uncle  who died in  oklahoma in Lake thunderbird his body never resurfaced   and he never drank agenst his religion just  went out in a boat it tiped and he was never hurd from or seen again  and he was a great swimmer</p>
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		<title>By: joan</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-5129</link>
		<dc:creator>joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&amp;^%$ you guys it all real</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#038;^%$ you guys it all real</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-5018</link>
		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Tenkiller has crystal clear water but Thunderbird has dirt red water with barely no visibility. They can never find anything in it because it&#039;s so dirty. They often find old cars in it &amp; DB&#039;s. EW. If you wear white it&#039;ll permanently be stained brownish-red!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Tenkiller has crystal clear water but Thunderbird has dirt red water with barely no visibility. They can never find anything in it because it&#8217;s so dirty. They often find old cars in it &amp; DB&#8217;s. EW. If you wear white it&#8217;ll permanently be stained brownish-red!</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-5017</link>
		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sewage goes into Lake Thunderbird, it&#039;s also Norman&#039;s drinking water. Maybe something got flushed down the toilet and ended up in the lake!!

          AHhhhh! 

         ewwWw!! 

Where I live there&#039;s a small creek with Gar fish and it&#039;ll often totally dry up but when it refills the Gar reappear?! Must have dormant eggs that hatch buried in the dirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sewage goes into Lake Thunderbird, it&#8217;s also Norman&#8217;s drinking water. Maybe something got flushed down the toilet and ended up in the lake!!</p>
<p>          AHhhhh! </p>
<p>         ewwWw!! </p>
<p>Where I live there&#8217;s a small creek with Gar fish and it&#8217;ll often totally dry up but when it refills the Gar reappear?! Must have dormant eggs that hatch buried in the dirt.</p>
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		<title>By: (briar) grad student of zoology minor in animal reseach (marine)</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-5016</link>
		<dc:creator>(briar) grad student of zoology minor in animal reseach (marine)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just to clear some things up salmon, black molly&#039;s, jelly fish, and some species of sharks can live in fresh and salt water.
one of the first things taught in zoology, and any true scientist would know , is science and/or scientific research is based on findings that many believe could not have happened at the time that they are discovered. to be a true scientist/zoologist you must to have an open mind to the findings of others and not disregard them because they do not necessarily agree with your own! science is trail and error. without the documented proof of other trials, any finding will never be a theory never go beyond the first lab in question. it will forever be just an educated guess. to disregard theories because you do not believe in them is to show lack of knowledge and true ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just to clear some things up salmon, black molly&#8217;s, jelly fish, and some species of sharks can live in fresh and salt water.<br />
one of the first things taught in zoology, and any true scientist would know , is science and/or scientific research is based on findings that many believe could not have happened at the time that they are discovered. to be a true scientist/zoologist you must to have an open mind to the findings of others and not disregard them because they do not necessarily agree with your own! science is trail and error. without the documented proof of other trials, any finding will never be a theory never go beyond the first lab in question. it will forever be just an educated guess. to disregard theories because you do not believe in them is to show lack of knowledge and true ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: chelsea</title>
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		<dc:creator>chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first off let begin with saying I am an all American swimmer with a new jet ski! i have swam in those lakes and even deep dived in two of them but NOW no one could pay me to ever again!! btw new jet ski for sale!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first off let begin with saying I am an all American swimmer with a new jet ski! i have swam in those lakes and even deep dived in two of them but NOW no one could pay me to ever again!! btw new jet ski for sale!</p>
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		<title>By: Fourteen year old Filipina</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4989</link>
		<dc:creator>Fourteen year old Filipina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I was searching for The Mothman in Lost Tapes but I came over The Oklahoma Octopus. 

I have watched the whole episode of it in Lost Tapes.

I&#039;m actually here because, like most of us, I&#039;m researching if the characters there were true. I know the whole STORY was only INSPIRED by the probability of the existence of this creature. Anyhow, so far I&#039;ve read 2 comments of different people claiming that the people in the video were real (unfortunately, their words were EXACTLY alike). 

Even though, we cannot be sure of the cause of the drowning of these teenagers (if true) or any other person that might have drowned there. 

Let&#039;s not make any comments about them being drunk and stuff. That could be possible. Anything is! I just think it&#039;s wrong to make presumptions about them: heck, you didn&#039;t know them! Plus, there is no evidence that could back up that claim.

Still, we cannot rule out those possibilities. Just as the possibility of an Octopus in fresh water should be ruled out. I mean, bullsharks have adapted, so why can&#039;t they? 

It really doesn&#039;t matter if you&#039;re a graduate in ZOOLOGY to tell everyone it&#039;s all a big hoax! It&#039;s possible! Our present knowledge of nature is very limited! 

So there. The whole VIDEO and STORY (characters, I&#039;m not so sure) was just INSPIRED/BASED on POSSIBILITIES that could&#039;ve happened. They&#039;re scripted, made up (i think based on some facts?). But the OKLOHOMA OCTOPUS? It is POSSIBLE. Nature is very unexpected. Heck life is!! (who ever knew in the past there will be laptops or computers?) 

P.S. to mr. zoologist, not to be rude, but you being a graduate of zoology, i think your first reaction should be have been that it may be possible. Come on, you should have known that. That&#039;s science.

Limitless.

Oh, and LESS than 1% of 300MILLION species of animals (including microscopic) have already been discovered. :D

Ciao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I was searching for The Mothman in Lost Tapes but I came over The Oklahoma Octopus. </p>
<p>I have watched the whole episode of it in Lost Tapes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually here because, like most of us, I&#8217;m researching if the characters there were true. I know the whole STORY was only INSPIRED by the probability of the existence of this creature. Anyhow, so far I&#8217;ve read 2 comments of different people claiming that the people in the video were real (unfortunately, their words were EXACTLY alike). </p>
<p>Even though, we cannot be sure of the cause of the drowning of these teenagers (if true) or any other person that might have drowned there. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not make any comments about them being drunk and stuff. That could be possible. Anything is! I just think it&#8217;s wrong to make presumptions about them: heck, you didn&#8217;t know them! Plus, there is no evidence that could back up that claim.</p>
<p>Still, we cannot rule out those possibilities. Just as the possibility of an Octopus in fresh water should be ruled out. I mean, bullsharks have adapted, so why can&#8217;t they? </p>
<p>It really doesn&#8217;t matter if you&#8217;re a graduate in ZOOLOGY to tell everyone it&#8217;s all a big hoax! It&#8217;s possible! Our present knowledge of nature is very limited! </p>
<p>So there. The whole VIDEO and STORY (characters, I&#8217;m not so sure) was just INSPIRED/BASED on POSSIBILITIES that could&#8217;ve happened. They&#8217;re scripted, made up (i think based on some facts?). But the OKLOHOMA OCTOPUS? It is POSSIBLE. Nature is very unexpected. Heck life is!! (who ever knew in the past there will be laptops or computers?) </p>
<p>P.S. to mr. zoologist, not to be rude, but you being a graduate of zoology, i think your first reaction should be have been that it may be possible. Come on, you should have known that. That&#8217;s science.</p>
<p>Limitless.</p>
<p>Oh, and LESS than 1% of 300MILLION species of animals (including microscopic) have already been discovered. <img src='http://411chatter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ciao</p>
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		<title>By: Nicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished watching the show in discovery channel. is it true about those a group of friends consisting 5 of them who just graduated a year ago from high school? After watching the show it made me wonder, how could the officers not bother to look for the remaining 3 people of the group in the area? Why can&#039;t anyone try to consider putting an underwater camera at the lake to see if there is a possibility of anything, that &quot;octopus&quot;, to be existing by the lake? it may be expensive or costly, but to put the legend/myth/stories to end, and for people not to have delusions about the fact that there really is a monster in the lake.

It&#039;s just a suggestion. but still it really is something to think about. :) let us not be encouraged by the recent drownings to be the cause of a monster. Analyze. Observe. Investigate. That is the only way to settle this, and for everyone to be at peace. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished watching the show in discovery channel. is it true about those a group of friends consisting 5 of them who just graduated a year ago from high school? After watching the show it made me wonder, how could the officers not bother to look for the remaining 3 people of the group in the area? Why can&#8217;t anyone try to consider putting an underwater camera at the lake to see if there is a possibility of anything, that &#8220;octopus&#8221;, to be existing by the lake? it may be expensive or costly, but to put the legend/myth/stories to end, and for people not to have delusions about the fact that there really is a monster in the lake.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a suggestion. but still it really is something to think about. <img src='http://411chatter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  let us not be encouraged by the recent drownings to be the cause of a monster. Analyze. Observe. Investigate. That is the only way to settle this, and for everyone to be at peace. <img src='http://411chatter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4947</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born and raised in the state of Oklahoma and when in High School it was required of to take Oklahoma history and during the course I learned that most of the lakes that are there are manmade. So when Jim said that they were created in the 30s it wasn&#039;t fabrication. 

With that said I remember as a kid stories that other kids would saw about the lakes there and our personal favorite one to go to was Lake Oologah. Never once did I hear of anything about an Octopus but people would tell stories of a &quot;monster&quot; in the lake. Who knows really, most of this could just be a good story to scare people. --But I do however remember sitting in a raft in the lake and feel something kick the underside of the raft. It of course scared me and I remembered the stories that were told to me I hurried back as fast as I could to the shore and from that point I never got in a lake again [it was that and the fact most lakes are just gross to me]. Maybe it was my mind playing tricks on me, who can really say I just know what my experience was . . . 

Anyways, that was my two cents worth on the show Lost Tapes: Oklahoma Octopus. And when I was watching it today it looked fake to me and it seemed extremely scripted.</description>
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<p>With that said I remember as a kid stories that other kids would saw about the lakes there and our personal favorite one to go to was Lake Oologah. Never once did I hear of anything about an Octopus but people would tell stories of a &#8220;monster&#8221; in the lake. Who knows really, most of this could just be a good story to scare people. &#8211;But I do however remember sitting in a raft in the lake and feel something kick the underside of the raft. It of course scared me and I remembered the stories that were told to me I hurried back as fast as I could to the shore and from that point I never got in a lake again [it was that and the fact most lakes are just gross to me]. Maybe it was my mind playing tricks on me, who can really say I just know what my experience was . . . </p>
<p>Anyways, that was my two cents worth on the show Lost Tapes: Oklahoma Octopus. And when I was watching it today it looked fake to me and it seemed extremely scripted.</p>
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		<title>By: alexandra</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4806</link>
		<dc:creator>alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omfg i saw this the other day and  i was totally sacred. i really don&#039;t what to believe to tell yall  the truth and i like to make a comment on the person who said that freshwater octopus lives in louisiana well you are wrong cuz i lived in louisiana for all my life so i would have heard of it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omfg i saw this the other day and  i was totally sacred. i really don&#8217;t what to believe to tell yall  the truth and i like to make a comment on the person who said that freshwater octopus lives in louisiana well you are wrong cuz i lived in louisiana for all my life so i would have heard of it</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4790</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived 20 min from Lake Thunderbird for 23 yrs and won&#039;t swim there because of all the drowning there. For years I have thought the drownings were because the lake was builted on old indian burial grounds. The rumur is that the indians said 1 person would drowned for every indian that was disturbed there. I don&#039;t know what the reason is but I do know the lake is strange. And strange things have been happening there for years........


Oh yeah and for you spell check people. I NEVER SAID I HAD A  PHD OR COULD SPELL.  THANKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived 20 min from Lake Thunderbird for 23 yrs and won&#8217;t swim there because of all the drowning there. For years I have thought the drownings were because the lake was builted on old indian burial grounds. The rumur is that the indians said 1 person would drowned for every indian that was disturbed there. I don&#8217;t know what the reason is but I do know the lake is strange. And strange things have been happening there for years&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Oh yeah and for you spell check people. I NEVER SAID I HAD A  PHD OR COULD SPELL.  THANKS</p>
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		<title>By: lynnetteq</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4789</link>
		<dc:creator>lynnetteq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saltwater animals can adapt to fresh water i saw lost tapes and it is crazy i am not swimming in the lakes anymore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saltwater animals can adapt to fresh water i saw lost tapes and it is crazy i am not swimming in the lakes anymore</p>
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		<title>By: elizabeth rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4788</link>
		<dc:creator>elizabeth rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg i saw that last night on lost tapes and had to look it up to see if that realy happen wow now i know where not to swim that was scary 
i wonder what happen to the 2 who lived</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg i saw that last night on lost tapes and had to look it up to see if that realy happen wow now i know where not to swim that was scary<br />
i wonder what happen to the 2 who lived</p>
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		<title>By: lizzy</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4787</link>
		<dc:creator>lizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wach it last night to crepy</description>
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		<title>By: upurs</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4786</link>
		<dc:creator>upurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey great postings..i saw the same episode on animal planet too..also saw man eater cat fish in india,on monster quest...what i am getting at is ;  possibly something is wrong there and for some reason the problem is getting worse instead of better...for a show like animal planet to get involved,seems like some people there at least are trying to make something public...great idea...get to the solution...it&#039;s watch dog people like you and others that we need going after the rich controlling families and the crooked diplomats too..america might then start to be a better palce to live...the way this country is run...there certainly could be a cover up,or a lack of interest,it&#039;s easy to blame drunks...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey great postings..i saw the same episode on animal planet too..also saw man eater cat fish in india,on monster quest&#8230;what i am getting at is ;  possibly something is wrong there and for some reason the problem is getting worse instead of better&#8230;for a show like animal planet to get involved,seems like some people there at least are trying to make something public&#8230;great idea&#8230;get to the solution&#8230;it&#8217;s watch dog people like you and others that we need going after the rich controlling families and the crooked diplomats too..america might then start to be a better palce to live&#8230;the way this country is run&#8230;there certainly could be a cover up,or a lack of interest,it&#8217;s easy to blame drunks&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: upurs</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4785</link>
		<dc:creator>upurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cannot see why a show like animal planet would put such a thing on,unless there was something there...about people saying they were being sucked under water..very large cat fish can do that,when they open their mouth to take in food ,they also create a large suction ...so it is possible for a person to be sucked in,if they are that big..in india,they have man eater cat fish with large teeth,possibly the catfish are huge enough to ingest a  full grown person???...well hopefully...if this is real...it will continue to get funded so more research and a possible solution can be found....from the pictures...it looks like a real nice place to live ,if you like waterfront living...i would be real interested in finding out whats going on..good luck..!..and carry a big knife when you swim..like tarzan..at least u might be able to get a piece of it..!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cannot see why a show like animal planet would put such a thing on,unless there was something there&#8230;about people saying they were being sucked under water..very large cat fish can do that,when they open their mouth to take in food ,they also create a large suction &#8230;so it is possible for a person to be sucked in,if they are that big..in india,they have man eater cat fish with large teeth,possibly the catfish are huge enough to ingest a  full grown person???&#8230;well hopefully&#8230;if this is real&#8230;it will continue to get funded so more research and a possible solution can be found&#8230;.from the pictures&#8230;it looks like a real nice place to live ,if you like waterfront living&#8230;i would be real interested in finding out whats going on..good luck..!..and carry a big knife when you swim..like tarzan..at least u might be able to get a piece of it..!</p>
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		<title>By: biokid</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4784</link>
		<dc:creator>biokid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To start, I am a marine and freshwater biology major at a state university in New England.  I have spent a lot of time studying all sorts of aquatic life, including cephalopods.  The credibility of this story must be examined closely.  The lakes in question were formed by the damning of rivers in the mid 1900&#039;s which exludes the possibility that it used to be a flood plain for the ocean.  Another problematic area is the concept that this octopus could be as large as a horse.  Humboldt squid, which are found in the Sea of Cortez and along the West coast reach six feet in length, with a much larger environment.  An organism will only reach a size that is sustainable and suited to the habitat.  While an octopus may be able to consume large amounts, they do not hunt large prey.  They are most likely to eat large numbers of small fish, not small numbers of large prey.
The fact that catfish inhabit these lakes could be the explanation for the reported sightings and even a possible cause of drownings.  In the Mekong River in Thailand, the catfish can reach lengths up to 9 feet and can weigh up to 650 lbs.  These fish have also been reported to grab onto human limbs and drag the individual underwater, even though they are not carnivorous.  
Before jumping to conclusions which are improbable and unsubstantiated, people should search for the more plausible cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To start, I am a marine and freshwater biology major at a state university in New England.  I have spent a lot of time studying all sorts of aquatic life, including cephalopods.  The credibility of this story must be examined closely.  The lakes in question were formed by the damning of rivers in the mid 1900&#8217;s which exludes the possibility that it used to be a flood plain for the ocean.  Another problematic area is the concept that this octopus could be as large as a horse.  Humboldt squid, which are found in the Sea of Cortez and along the West coast reach six feet in length, with a much larger environment.  An organism will only reach a size that is sustainable and suited to the habitat.  While an octopus may be able to consume large amounts, they do not hunt large prey.  They are most likely to eat large numbers of small fish, not small numbers of large prey.<br />
The fact that catfish inhabit these lakes could be the explanation for the reported sightings and even a possible cause of drownings.  In the Mekong River in Thailand, the catfish can reach lengths up to 9 feet and can weigh up to 650 lbs.  These fish have also been reported to grab onto human limbs and drag the individual underwater, even though they are not carnivorous.<br />
Before jumping to conclusions which are improbable and unsubstantiated, people should search for the more plausible cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Aleutian</title>
		<link>http://411chatter.com/495/oklahoma-octopus/comment-page-2/#comment-4783</link>
		<dc:creator>Aleutian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are dumbasses.  It&#039;s a FICTIONAL story.  This is from the show&#039;s page on the Animal Planet website:  &quot;This first-person, immersive series blurs the line between fact and fiction as it explores deadly encounters with the mysterious creatures that science refuses to recognize. &quot;  That is in ADDITION to the fact that during the show, they repeatedly put up on the screen &quot;this story is inspired by rumors of the existence of hidden creatures.&quot;   DUH.  Those teenagers dont exist, and there is no &quot;Oklahoma Octopus&quot; at all.  I live an hour away from Lake Tenkiller and have for 30 years and nobody I know has ever heard of such a thing.  I see some references to it on the web but that doesnt make it any more valid than Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster.  I wouldnt be suprised if this page had been setup by someone associated with the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are dumbasses.  It&#8217;s a FICTIONAL story.  This is from the show&#8217;s page on the Animal Planet website:  &#8220;This first-person, immersive series blurs the line between fact and fiction as it explores deadly encounters with the mysterious creatures that science refuses to recognize. &#8221;  That is in ADDITION to the fact that during the show, they repeatedly put up on the screen &#8220;this story is inspired by rumors of the existence of hidden creatures.&#8221;   DUH.  Those teenagers dont exist, and there is no &#8220;Oklahoma Octopus&#8221; at all.  I live an hour away from Lake Tenkiller and have for 30 years and nobody I know has ever heard of such a thing.  I see some references to it on the web but that doesnt make it any more valid than Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster.  I wouldnt be suprised if this page had been setup by someone associated with the show.</p>
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